thanks isd etetia, now this thread can get the attention it truly deserves

Pip, its because of the design of EVE. its designed to be a 'real' universe...where anything can happen.
Yes some may cause you dismay at not being able to do whatever you may be doing, but that is 'life' and that is how EVE is intended to be.
You can always pay,hire,recruit etc someone to get rid of the players that are hindering you.

This simply is not a solo PvE game.

Play any number of single player games if you don't want PvP.

Eve is an MMO, so just because PvE is not optimized for single-player doesn't take away from what it is -- it is both PvP and PvE, which also includes categories you eliminated and didn't mention. These, like exploration, incursions etc. are no less PvE.

Mining is probably the least effective thing to do solo. You could do the market solo and manufacturing with variable efficiency.

You can be a solo courier if you're smart -- it's not risk-free but can be low-risk.

This thread is horrible and you should feel bad for making it.

Pip, read what I said initially and don't give up. Just keep on plowing through and don't let a few elitists win by making you quit. If you don't want to PvP, don't. There's so many ways to just avoid it and do something else! Not ALWAYS, but most of the time!

Stay with us mate, and enjoy EVE!

You're brand new, have just shy of 30d of gametime left.

Do this.

1. find some people to chat with (locals in your mission hub for example)
2. if they're pretty cool people, look to joining their corp
3. if the corp fits what your playstyle is, sign up
4. BS with your corpies about whatever whilst doing your thing.


now, that said ... casual corps are fun ... but they're not necessarily the best out there, in that it's sometimes hard to get help when you need it.

The actual chances of being scanned down by the big bad ninja salvager are much lower than you think. If and when he does there is no rule actually stating that you have to go after him. What is one missions loot when you run a dozen a day?

There is nothing saying that you have to group up when mining, just be smart about what you fly and where. You remember those missions that were just mentioned above? Well many of them contain rocks. I'm willing to be that suiciders tend to stick to belt patrols far more rather than care enough to scan down lone ships in deadspace and grav sites.

Courier should be the easy one. Light cargo, fast align.

So tell me, what's the supposed handicap here for pve players?

when did this thread get racist XD

You just need to learn them my man. Eve is harsh, no questions there, absolutely. But it isn't without help. Send me a message via eve-mail in game. I'll be online in a bit and I can help you out to the best of my ability.

Shooting scripted red crosses all day is not pvp.

Yeah, that's more nationalist than racist (or maybe just ignorant with the terrorist portion).

EVE is all about cooperative play.

Because you put yourself in a position to be affected by another player. You did it, not the game.

You appear to live in backward land. By not placing yourself in a position to be affected by another player you are avoiding pvp. Guy warps in, you warp out. No pvp. Guy steals from can, you don't fire. No pvp. Guy enters system, you cloak. No pvp. Target player and hit F1-F8. PvP.

It seems that what you are looking for is nanny state pve, meaning that you want the company to coddle and shield you. If so then yes, this game is not for you. This game bears more of a carry yourself attitude to it.

Pip don't argue. They will eat you alive in here. You are actively partaking in forum PvP.
You seem to continue so this may be an indicator that you like it?
Possibly try looking up the diplomacy side of EVE...the politics are massive here.

Because it appears that your definition is vaguely different than the communities. Btw, I couldn't help but notice that you never did say where all those evil pvp happenings actually happened. It was low sec wasn't it? You did disregard the little warning box didn't you?

Then either you initiated the conflict by shooting first or stealing from the player that destroyed you, or destroying you cost them their ship.

That's how HS works; PvP is either consensual or it costs the attacker their ship (or a Wardec fee, but that's only kind of non-consensual).

I enjoy the PVE in EVE, and the fact that you're never safe makes it more enjoyable.

If you don't like the game please don't try to ruin it for the rest of us, total carebearness with zero consequences should never be allowed in this game.

GǪand if it wasn't consensual, then it cost the other guy something, because that's how highsec works: highsec is simply a part of space where aggression comes at a cost. Nothing more, nothing less (ok, maybe a bit less, since there are some equipment restrictions as well).

So you're not actually differing in any way from what he said.

In that case, it cost the attacker their ship. Because, unless you shot them first (after they stole something of yours) or you stole something from them, CONCORD came by after some delay and blew up their ship.

That's what the "or" was in there for.

With some details, I could explain to you exactly what happened.